Placement Committee Minutes (06-21-12)

Tri-County Technical College – Placement Committee Meeting

Thursday, June 21, 2012 – Oconee - 305

Faculty/Staff Present

Andrea Barnett, Jennifer Beattie, Galen DeHay, Stephanie Evans (for Danny Stovall),  Renae Frazier, Scott Harvey, Joan Kalley, Dr. Jerry Marshall,  and Carol Watts

Faculty/Staff Absent

K.C. Bryson, Shelly Burgins, Linda Crowe, Tonia Faulling, George Fiori, Tracy Kilgore, Dr. Gwen Owens, and Danny Stovall

Opening Remarks

This meeting has been “called” due to information brought to Jennifer Beattie’s attention regarding SAT/ACT Scores in Comparison to COMPASS scores.

SAT/ACT Scores in Comparison to COMPASS Scores for Students Entering TCTC

Ø  Using SAT/ACT criteria for the cut scores per Scott Harvey

Ø  COMPASS used as an admission requirement

Ø  Admission requirement SAT/ACT can be used as initial placement -- otherwise where and what?  Problem to solve?

Ø  Clemson Math Placement Test (CMPT) was higher than needed to be – only 45% success rate. Tri-County Technical College has a higher success rate based on our Math Placement Test

Ø  COMPASS – 102 prime  - what entry-level would you place requirement for admission

Ø  Ability to Benefit is impacted by admissions.   Exposure to Comprehensive Studies will logically show Ability to Benefit.

Ø  5-year timeframe – SAT/ACT for admissions requirement (480/SAT, 19/ACT)

Ø  Trident Technical College requirements for admissions are: application, fee, and placement assessment.

Ø  COMPASS accurate placement tool

Ø  Acceptance for placement on SAT/ACT admissions – 37/RDG

Ø  Test information on public network – samples – videos on eTC (videos can be moved to public side)

Ø  SAT/ACT/COMPASS have to take anyway

Ø  Bridge – can we admit them to the College based on SAT/ACT

Ø  Grab SAT/ACT/COMPASS – correlation.  Does ACT know COMPASS correlation? Yes    W/69 = 18 ACT; R/83 = 21 ACT; M/65 = 22 ACT

Ø  Whether using minimal ACT/SAT scores as admissions? Will the “or” be 200 minimum?

Ø   Horry – SAT/300 Critical Reading for admitting.  MOA? Admission to college with SAT

Ø  Jennifer Beattie will call Adult Education.

Ø  Andrea Barnett will call Frank Potter at ACT.

With no other business to discuss, the meeting adjourned at 10:50 a.m.

Recorded by Joan Kalley               Typed by Linda Crowe

Placement Committee Minutes (04-03-12)

Tri-County Technical College – Placement Committee Meeting

Tuesday, April 3, 2012- Cleveland 140

Faculty/Staff Present

Danny Stovall, Galen DeHay, Jerry Marshall, Jennifer Beattie, Tonia Faulling, Tracy Kilgore, Carol Watts, Andrea Barnett, Gwen Owens, Joan Kalley, KC Bryson

Faculty/Staff Absent

George Fiori, Scott Harvey, Linda Crowe, Shelly Burgins

COMPASS Placement Chart – No score of 100 on COMPASS test, need to revise chart

                                                Reverse RDG and ENG on chart for easier understanding

Ability to Benefit- 62 needed for Financial Aid.

                                Students without paper work- How many scored under 36?

Concerns that 031 and 032 classes are not as rigorous as other schools

Advising:

 It was brought to the committee’s attention that students may not understand directions for the reading/writing section of COMPASS resulting in low scores. Suggestions made are as follows:

1.       Advising 1^st –then set up everything then test

2.       Pre-test workshop for COMPASS:            need interactive video to help students

                                                                                Camtasia-how to “take the Compass”

3.       Look at testing module: what exactly is told to students

4.       Testing and Orientation switch to Orientation, Testing, and Advising

The idea is for students to go through orientation or meet with an advisor prior to taking the COMPASS then they would understand the importance of doing their best.

Correct Placement:

Reading cut off scores have not yet been determined by state

Diagnostics as part of COMPASS:    1 unit –1/2 unit pre and post cost $ 1.20 per unit:  Find the number of students who place into developmental courses- pilot those classes with diagnostic

Data on Diagnostic test: Frank Potter doing state studies